For their second podcast, Mumbai Architecture Project (MAP) invited three architects who participated in the Kochi Muziris Biennale 2016. Along with them we also invited one artist who is involved in teaching architecture students. They were: Manisha Agarwal & Shantanu Poredi (partners at MO-OF), Rajeev Thakker of (aRT- Art & Architecture), Kausik Mukhopadhyay (practicing artist & full time faculty at KRVIA). It made for an engaging discussion of understanding creative processes; understanding the gestation period from conception to reality of their artwork; of their struggles for resources and siting, of straddling two professions; and the joy of the engagement of the user with the installations.